In 1992, an MIT student asked Apple founder and CEO Steve Jobs the following question: where would Apple be if you hadn’t left?

Jobs paused.

“I’ve obviously thought about this a lot. I think everybody lost. I think I lost. I think Apple lost. I think customers lost.”

“And having said all that, so what? You go on. It’s not as bad as a lot of things. Not as bad as losing your arm.”

That’s Steve Jobs. Getting fired from the company he built, comparing it to losing a limb, and shrugging.

He spent the rest of the talk explaining what he learned about building companies.